Re: The Blasphemy Challenge(let's go to hell)

kilian111 Says:

Jun 18, 2007 - Marriage, by definition, is the legal union of a MAN and a WOMAN as HUSBAND and WIFE. A man and a man can live together, share bank accounts, and care for one another's needs, BUT they can NEVER get married. They can pretend, but marriage by definition requires persons of both sexes.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 18, 2007 - Abortion is either the direct killing of an innocent human being, or it is not. The fetus is alive. It has a different set of DNA from the mother. It is a human person. I believe that abortion is murder.

felipetenor Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - gosh that was so predictable...i already knew that you would come with that...well the definition is based on xstian old laws before the church/state separation...if u go by that i think you also find right to have your woman as your slave serving you, and black folks as slaves, and that you have the right to burn people on pyres....i'll never respect xstian laws i'm sorry but marriage means the legal union of 2 persons

felipetenor Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - so if a woman gets rapped she will have to suffer not only that violence but the 9 months of pregnancy for then give the baby to adoption? oh yeah it was her fault to get rapped

kilian111 Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - The Church, and here I am speaking or the Catholic Chruch, has always been a crusader for women's rights (Mary the Mother of God), and has never sanctioned slavery. It was Christian abolitionists in America who had a great influence of doing away with that nasty practice. Heretics were burned at the stake in Europe by Christians who were acting on their own. Marriage is the union of a MAN and a WOMAN, period. Look it up in the dictionary.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - Rape and incest constitute less than 1% of all abortions. It is not a woman's fault for being raped (not rapped). BUT why should the child suffer for the sins of his father. ALSO, MOST women who have been raped continue their pregnancies and give birth. They see abortion as a further act of violence to which they do not want to be a part. Look it up.

felipetenor Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - lol ok let's se... "A marriage is an interpersonal relationship with governmental, social, or religious recognition, usually intimate and sexual, and often created as a contract. The most frequently occurring form of marriage unites a man and a woman as husband and wife.[1][2][citation needed] Other forms of marriage also exist; for example, polygamy, in which a person takes more than one spouse, is common in many societies.

felipetenor Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - (cont) [3] Beginning in 2001, the legal concept of marriage has been expanded to include same-sex marriage in some jurisdictions." so please update your bibles...oops i mean dictionaries... yeah blame the catolics for showing the world what churches really are...

felipetenor Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - oops here comes my favorite word 'Sin" the religious concept to make you fell guilty and captive as a sheep...lol i'm sory but since i don't belive in soul i can't accept the fact of something not entirely human or formed as a living/thinking person...if that was the case i commit a genocide at least 3 times a day

kilian111 Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - Marriage is and has always been the union of man and woman. Some societies have disagreed as to how many wives a man should have, but the fact remains that marriage has ALWAYS involved the opposite sexes. In the last election (2006), a gay marriage referendum was put on the ballot in 22 states. All 22 decided overwhelmingly to defeat the proposal.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - [T]he legal concept of marriage has been expanded to include same-sex marriage." WHERE???? San Francisco??? I can see that you are avoiding your dictionary's definition of marriage.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 19, 2007 - Sin SHOULD make you feel guilty. The "captivity" kicks in when you deny that you are a sinner, and persist in your sin. You become a "slave to sin". I simply disagree with you on abortion. A living fetus, with its own DNA, is a human life. What else could it be? The heart of the fetus begins to beat within the first month after conception. Most women do not even know that they are pregnant at this point.

felipetenor Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - sin is just something that religions created to make you feel guilty for being a human...everybody will do something wrong no matter what..but i try to learn from it instead of praying for something to forgive me..so far in my life there's not a single thing i regret...they all helped me to grow up...sin for me is as meaningless as the concept of soul.

felipetenor Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - (cont) ok so i'll be pro-life the moment that humankind stops killing anything that has his own dna and a beating heart....and don't bother coming with the god/soul speech..

felipetenor Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - gosh..could u please try to have any ideas of your own? and try thinking outside the states as well i'm talking wordwide...the info that i got about marriage is from wikipedia that is more deep than any dictionary that you will find...and of course that in a xstian country people will freak out voting in a pro-gay bill once again it's this church-state fault...

kilian111 Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - All are sinners. Christians "try to learn" from their sins as well. But we also acknowledge that we are in need of forgiveness. Sin IS meaninglessness, it is self-mutilation.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - I won't argue abortion using a religious areguement. There are many non Christian doctors who WILL NOT perform abortions because they see it for what it is, the killing of an innocent human person.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - Wikipedia, deep. HAHA. Wikipedia is an EDITABLE online encyclopedia!!! That means that anyone can add his own 2 cents to the page, including those who may have a political or social agenda. Wake up!! Marriage IS and always HAS BEEN the legal union of MAN and WOMAN. So called "gay marriage" is a modern progressive experimental invention, not a tried and true institution, as is marriage.

felipetenor Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - ok...so let's do the following....u ask for forgiveness because u feel that u need...i KNOW i don't need any so i won't bother....k...now u can go preach someone else

felipetenor Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - ok...let's put this way.... as far as i'm concerned the diference of a human and an animal is: if u put a gun in my hand and ask me to shoot a baby or a dog i'll shoot the baby...period...now go read your bible

felipetenor Says:

Jun 20, 2007 - Lol...i'm sorry but unlike u i'm totally pro-progression so let's stop putting our fingers where we're not supposed to and grant people theyr legal rights...seeya

kilian111 Says:

Jun 21, 2007 - I never claimed to be preaching to you. I have no interest in what you do in your personal life whatsoever.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 21, 2007 - Very telling.

kilian111 Says:

Jun 21, 2007 - Progress assumes a goal. You don't seem to have one. If there is no God in the end, you'll never know. If there is a God in the end, you surely will.

2EZEE Says:

Dec 19, 2007 - TESTIFY BROTHER!!!!! loved it!